Holier Than Thou? formed in May of 1999. Jeff (guitar) & Noel (drums) were jamming on some song ideas influenced by a variety of '80s hardcore bands. d.r. & Jeff were roomates and spent way too much time complaining to one another about the lameness of the scene at that time & waxing nostalgic about the glory days of their youth (mid '80s), and so Jeff asked d.r. to be the vocalist for his new project with Noel needing a bass player. Noel coyly approached his 11th grade Math teacher, whom he knew to be a fossilized closet-punk from the Cretaceous Period, and inquired, "Hey, Mr.