It all started back August/2003, when Ghassan met up with Ahmed in Rotana's music store, where Ahmed works. It was clear they shared an appreciation of metal music in general and doom in particular, they met few times later ,discussed the local metal scene in Saudi Arabia ''which is unknown widely'', and the possibility of having a mid success band, they wanted to start something but due to circumstances they did not . October/2004, in a moment of pure impulse Ahmed called Ghassan it seemed completely out of the blue since the two have not spoken nor met in such a long time .

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